The only people as of now that we know seen him transform that are still alive is the Z warriors. And from what i saw those guys were chumps and they were nowhere as skilled and versatile as frieza was. They haven't shown that level of ki output. And we know that they are both much weaker than Cell-era SSJ2 Gohan. Gotenks is the Metamoran fusion of Goten and Trunks, formed to defeat Majin Buu. Goten is Gohan's younger brother and Trunks' best friend. 150,000,000. Kaioken= Base x1.5- 20. Gotenks is no older than Goten/Trunks, yet he obviously would slaughter mecha Freiza and future trunks. @deathhero61: So obvious denial correct? Who are they stronger than without fusion? Age: Up to 30 minutes Gender: Male Classification: Saiyan-Human Hybrid, Metamoran Fusion 3,000,000. Looking at the fight, before Abo and Cabo started using their special abilities, Goten and Trunks were handling them rather easily. It was a secret kept more from the Saiyans, not from his own men. During the time he was far above everyone. And Toriyama also revealed that 1 Kili is 1.000.000 in power level and thus SSj FP Goku is 3.000.000.000 and Yakon is 800.000.000. Super Saiyan= x50. ), Actually I'm gonna go a bit further, and probably rustle some jimmies too, and replace SSJ Goku with SSJ Kid Gohan. The fusion only lasts for 30 minutes and using Super Saiyan 3 reduces this time to 5 minutes. @vampiricshaman: "Naturally, it's a Super Saiyan bargain sale" I died. Both Goten and Trunks are stronger than both their fathers were during the Android Saga, as well as stronger than Gohan was at only 7 and 8 respectively despite no meaningful training. If Goten and Trunks have a higher base power level than Vegeta and Trunks did during the Android saga, then they wouldn't need FPSS. Also, Bills wasn't giving that estimation based on Goku's full base potential. Gohan wasn't that inexperienced when he fought Cell. Like - trivially losing to 18 to trivially dominating semi-perfect Cell level stuff, which is gigantic. Battle of Gods Arc Goku 1 x 10^502 (10 Sesexagintacentillion) MSSJ Goku 5 x 10^510 (5 Novensexagintacentillion) Goten 1 x 10^105 (1 Quattuortrigintillion) Hercule 6.6 Good Buu 1.5 x 10^189 (1.5 Duosexagintillion) Trunks 1 x 10^105 (1 Quattuortrigintillion) Goku vs Beerus (On King Kai Planet) Goku (Suppressed) 60,000,000 King Kai 3,500 Bubbles 1,000 Gregory 1,100 Beerus (Heavily … If you noticed when he showed up Whis and Beerus were surprised. Super Saiyan Trunks: 100,000,000 (had to power down to match Goten for fusion) Super Saiyan Goten: 100,000,000 Fat Gotenks: 200,000,000 (their power didn’t really increase much but didn’t go down as Gotenks felt that being Fat was a way to regulate their power. Not only that she was surprised by trunks' nuke yet weaker versions of herself and her brother were nuking cities in another timeline. And dont mention gotenks cause the guy said frieza vs trunks or goten, not both of them. Goten's appearance as a child is very similar to Goku's childhood look, including messy, unkempt hair, same eye color, lighter-pale complexion and a playful face. So my best estimates for these two are around Freeza's base level and Freeza's 1st form power. Even at 18's PL, they could very well stomp buu depending on how well fusion works. That was in the World Martial Arts right? If you need an example though, watch the part of "Yo! Goten vs. Trunks. If otherwise Zarbon wrecking Vegeta, Majin Buu stomping Adult SSJ2 Gohan/Supreme Kai, and any other occurrences would be labelled as plot induced stupidity, but it's really how the series goes about establishing their power. Because we can compare feats right now and they are not even there yet i'd argue. Goten and trunks based on showcases are at the very least around android level maybe just maybe frieza first or second form level. Main article: List of Power Levels. If its more than that its possible he might be a rogue God of Destruction from another universe. they were hard pressed when fighting android 18. Now, when they are okay to use, that's only when the said character hasn't beaten/fought anybody in order to put a label on his power so thus we'd reduce it down to feats, but if there is none, then that character is practically impossible to debate for. 1.No. Which may place Goten and Trunks around 1.5-2mil a piece. He also wears a similar orange gi to Goku's, minus the kame symbol along with a dark blue long-sleeved undershirt and black training shoes with dark blue shin guards in the Majin Buu Arc. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Heck i doubt they can even destroy the moon. And I wanted someone else opinion on this. Super Saiyan Grade 3= Base x75. 10,000,000,000 Can fight Mira (Suppressed; Online) Super Saiyan Edit. after the buu saga, powers are based on Theory and multipliers DRAGON BALL CLÁSSICO Contents . Goten and Trunks had the advantage over Gohan of being born as tailless hybrids, which gave them an incredible growth of power even above tailed hybrids, as well as making the ability to transform to Ssj for the first time very easy. Which may place Goten and Trunks around 1.5-2mil a piece. Other powerful fighters in the series have had lightning at some point or another, without being SSJ2. Give me your power levels. Since Gohan can almost take on both of them, he probably has around 70,000,000. He was able to learn MSSJ before he could fly. BTW goten and trunks did not give 18 trouble. That would mean that they are more powerful than namek goku which i refuse to believe. Goten was able to go MSSJ at the age of 7 without having previous knowledge of the form. Buu Absorptions= Buu+Absrobee. If so, Trunks and Goten have this one securely in the bag too. Notable Attacks / Techniques: Ki: The fighting power and life force of a martial artist, a tangible energy derived from the user's vigor, courage, and mind. However, because the Fusion Dance requires near-equal, if not identical power levels of each of the fused individuals, Trunks had to lower his power level to match Goten's, since his was slightly higher from being one year older. Doubt it. #18 was not 'crapping her pants'. And these questions are out of all the combatants in the DBZ universe. This time speculation will be taken without other forms of media. In the manga she stomped them while not even trying which in turn they had no choice but to go SSJ. We also know this is Canon since Tarble is also mentioned in the later film "Battle of Gods". #18 and others were Holding Back during the tournament to keep from maiming the other contestants. And was allot more than she thought and wanted to end the fight quickly due to how the fight might do to the stadium, plus krillin told her to holdback during tournament.) 8.1 Piccolo Jr. Saga. You doubt they can bust the moon? Legendary Of Saiyan Resident Neo 11 total posts: 3056 since: Jan 2014. The ONLY confirmation of how strong they are, was from Goku in movie 14 when he … Can you show me trunks training in gravity? Classic editor History Comments Share. Edit. Use code memes for an Extra 10% discount ($99+)! Freeza only ever stated that King Vegeta never saw him transform. Gohan had to give them instructions since they didn't know how to use their ki. I need a pure showcase proving at least that. Fathers and sons face off against their rivals, Gohan & Goku vs Vegeta & Trunks POWER LEVELS. She was surprised because her opponent was supposed to be a weak, pitiful human with no ability. You have to remember, Goten/Trunks were SSJ1 amazingly early. Plus Trunks training is way better since Vegeta trains him and he probably has to train everyday. The two young Saiyans then fused and . 5 Gotenks divided by 80,000,000,000 Fat And Skinny Have The Same Power Level. Unless you mean some how as in " you havent shown me why " and not " how could they get that strong" if you didnt mean the latter, my bad. Frieza had it at 100% buff power, and SSJ Goku had it on Namek. When Goku first appeared in the original series, he was 12yrs old. And Tarble, Abo and Cabo can't sense ki. Base Edit. Manga and Anime. And I had made an argument of how frieza would be able to beat goten/trunks. So my best estimates for these two are around Freeza's base level and Freeza's 1st form power. Yeah sure. For example, Tien's power level during the Trunks Saga will be around 70,000 and will … (its likely that king cold knows of said transformation. He only saw Frieza at his base. So they are weaker than Roshi in DB now?? We also know that Birus says that he doesn't feel Goku could've beaten Freeza when seeing him in base form, which most likely means he was examining Goku's full base potential, which at the time of the Buu Saga was 60mil, half of Freeza's maximum. A bunch of WIS fights? Bonus: Hory shit, Gotenks 12/10. They haven't outputted levels of power on par with at least those two in every category. Abo and Cabo would be in their 30's or 40's at the least. 400,000,000,000 After training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, said to be stronger than he previously was as a Super Saiyan (and at that time he was stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku) Fat Edit. After all, Korrin blatantly told Goku Post-RosT training that Cell was still stronger than him, despite the fact Cell hadn't displayed his full potential. Tier: High 4-C. Name: Goten Origin: Dragon Ball. Freeza’s Transformations= Form x2. The fact that she was "scared" of their blast was PIS considering 18 is supposed to be stronger than frieza the guy who blows up planets every other day when he was alive. @reikai: I don't listen to those who use filler to back up their argument. So trunks being stronger than goku during the android saga is stupid to be honest. They are essentially featless so we have no choice plus Yo son goku and friends return is basically canon. I'm saying that Goten and Trunks turning SSJ is a Ki amplificationThe ki amplification argument in general is pretty baseless and if the best support you have is ToP Anime power-scaling inconsistencies (the ToP Anime is joked on for how poor Toei did its power-scaling), there's definitely a problem. -We're talking about a fight with even power levels. Super Saiyan Trunks. The other two are new Super Saiyans but really took to the new power. Their fusion at base proceeded to murder stomp buu. Birus can, especially as his abilities are literally of a higher level than Goku's as he's a God and it was expressed clearly that others cannot sense the abilities of a God. Like i said we do not know how 18 would far against goku. I would say SSj trunks is atleast twice as strong as goku was when goku first entered namek mainly for what probably was filler about trunks in vegetas gravity room that was at 200 times earths gravity where goku was struggling under the 100x earth gravity when he was training to get their and goten is somewhere close to that level based on the world tournament. Dragon Ball Z, Super, and GT Power Levels. They needed the year long ROSAT training to surpass the androids (and Cell too lol)? Their SSJ fusion was around SSJ3 Goku and Fat Buu level from Goku's and Piccolo's words. @deathhero61: For the obvious fact that Namek Goku would get slaughtered by 18? YOU JUST SAID NAMEK GOKU DOESN'T COMPARE IN POWER. We know that Goku and the rest of the Z fighters all suppress their power levels when they aren't fighting. Goku traveled half of namek's distance in a few seconds in base form. As SSJ they'd be around 100mil respectively and working together could overwhelm Freeza. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. The Potara fusion always seemed superior to the metamorphian (or whatever its called) though. Also it was clear to everyone that Freeza transformed after King Cold and his crew recovered Freeza's body. As for where i'd rank them, they did give #18 some trouble in the tournament and there's no evidence to suggest she was holding back either. We also don't know how fusions are quantified, so we can't say for sure. Goten having trouble with chichi? You're just denying what's obviously shown. DBZ Power levels based of percentage I based these battles on what I view as power gaps. The lightning doesn't make you SSJ2. I seriously doubt BOS DBS Goku couldn't take Frieza. Furiza probably has the same level here as in the Namek saga. Trunks is pretty much on Goten's level, just slightly stronger. Super Saiyan Trunks 150,000,000 Even with Frieza's cybernetic enhancements he is still no match for a Super Saiyan that is around the same power level as Goku's when they fought on Namek. Not without fusion. These little guys have a huge advantage on Gohan in potential. So yeah, fusion is hella OP. Trunks is stronger because of his age, he has one full year of training over Goten, and we've all seen what a Saiyain can accomplish in one year. 500,000,000,000 Can fight Mira (Suppressed to above Super Saiyan 3 Goku and Majin Buu) 50x Base 2nd Grade Super Saiyan Edit. Also not a battle. Goku does similar. He said that namek goku doesn't compare to goten and trunks in power. Get Anime Apparel here: http://bit.ly/AnimeCartoonApparelUse code meme for an Extra 5% discount ($49+)! re: East Kaioshin vs SSJ Goten and Trunks He maybe able to take one of them thanks to his magic but even one on one he's sorely outclassed power level … @deathhero61: The kids aren't that weak dude.They're just that powerful to do that to 18. Their physical strength in comparison is garbage from what i seen, their speed is supposed to be way faster but all things considered they seem to be the slowest. He is theHumanandSaiyanhybrid son of BulmaandVegeta. Anyway, the opponents he/she has beaten or fought well against must be considered over feats in order to justify power. Multipliers. But the fusion, IMO, has more to do with the fusies. Elder Kai draws out your entire potential and even pushes it beyond, meaning that they'd be a lot stronger than Ultimate Gohan as I believe they have more potential than him. (because the blast they shot was surprisingly strong. Like i said the fight against 18 was pure downplay. 3 years ago. @deathhero61: Zarbon knew, but never saw. So my best estimates for these two are around Freeza's base level and Freeza's 1st form power. Firstly ssj form is not a set number, it simply multiplies the base power of a saiyan by 50. Dragon Ball - General This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. Goku was casually doing two finger pushups in 100 times gravity, fighting in 100 times gravity and reacting to his own energy blasts and what not in 100 times gravity. Heck after the 3 year training Goku was as sure as hell stronger than trunks, so was vegeta. 8.1 Piccolo Jr. Saga. Base trunks was power level 5 when Frieza read him so it's hard to say what Goku was at when Beerus said that. 8.1.1 Dragon Ball Z Kai; 8.2 Saiyan Saga; 9 Raditz … There is one thing wrong with those power level, when goten and trunks … And once they remembered how to detect their opponents, they quite easily beat down on Abo and Cabo, forcing them to merge. The two young Super Saiyans then fused and became Super Saiyan Gotenks. Also does this mean Goku Black is at least SSG power level? 4 years ago. Also I said Kid Gohan was stronger than Goku in the Cell Games. So two Cell Juniors would probably either beat the two of them, or it'd be a really close match. There's no evidence Tarble ever met Freeza at all. So Birus' estimations of Goku's ability at standard are not without merit. In the DBZ special movie involving the appearance of Vegeta's younger brother, Tarble, it had been mentioned that Abo and Cabo, two former special squad members on the same ranking as the Ginyu Force, had become as tough as Freeza. They were later in the series, this is a shonen, power increases down series. Obvious denial. Base Edit. Dragon Ball GT Edit. But yeah i'd say they are around frieza's level but not final form. Plus Trunks said otherwise that he was holding back and even then goku was still stronger. Sure. Goten and Trunks seem to have their power levels as equals, due to Goten and Trunks requesting fusion through multiple moments in Dragon Ball GT. Just maybe, ssj vegeta when he first appeared in the android saga but cell saga goku is really and i mean really pushing it. @deathhero61: Using the wrong kind of debating. Powers and Stats. Maybe. Tier: At least High 4-C, 4-B as a Super Saiyan | 4-B | 4-B. Goten is Gohan's younger brother and Trunks' best friend. SO I USED THE MARVEL AND DC RULES. Super Saiyan Grade 2= Base x60. Trunks Special Android 17: 60,000,000 Android 18: 60,000,000 SS Gohan: 70,000,000 SS Trunks: 45,000,000: Here, the Android's power levels are based on the guesses from the Android saga. And the fact that weaker versions of herself and her brother were nuking cities as a hobby while barely trying. Anyway, considering frieza blew up planet vegeta in his first form and that is just a power level of 500 000 it is safe to assume that goten and trunks could blow up planets if they wanted to. Goten vs. Trunks. Gotenks is beaten by Majin Buu. However, based on that they'd get no further than ranking them either equal to or slightly below Cell Saga Super Vegeta (as when #18 witnessed his power, she was much more intimidated and surprised than she was when she witnessed Goten & Trunks turn into Super Saiyans). Edit. Also Goku would lose vs 18, , Also, Trunks held back vs Goku, I would say SSj trunks is atleast twice as strong as goku was when goku first entered namek mainly for what probably was filler about trunks in vegetas gravity room that was at 200 times earths gravity where goku was struggling under the 100x earth gravity when he was training to get their and goten is somewhere close to that level based on the world tournament. Cell Absorptions= … Which, again, could mean anything. But by the time Buu rolls around, Goku and Vegeta are both many times stronger than Gohan was at Cell. Raditz vs Goku and Piccolo Farmer: 5 Raditz(Suppressed): 1,200 Piccolo(Weights): 322 Goku(Weights): 334 Gohan: 1 Chichi: 90 Piccolo: 322 Krillin: 206 Bulma: 1 Emperor Pilaf Saga; 2 Tournament Saga; 3 Red Ribbon Saga; 4 General Blue Saga; 5 Commander Red Saga; 6 Fortuneteller Baba Saga; 7 Tenshinhan Saga; 8 Piccolo Daimao Saga. So yeah im in denial and what not. Goku and vegeta at their maxes were getting crushed by buuhan IIRC. Raditz vs. Goku and Piccolo. That is not to say he never has. And she even said that she underestimated them which suggest she was holding back. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Others 4 Discussions Trunks(トランクス) is a protagonist in theDragon Ballmanga, and the anime seriesDragon Ball Z, and Dragon Ball Super. Trunks and Goten transformed themselves as Super Saiyans. The legitimately only reason why he failed to beat 19 was because of his heart disease. But their fusion before the ROSAT was pretty quantifiable. Trunks and Goten were going all out while 18 was keeping herself restrained. What power? Tarble says that Abo and Cado are "As strong as Freeza was". @pope052 , thoughts? There are dozens of examples of that, and it's been heavily discussed in the series. Unless you want to argue that Mr Popo is on the same level as a Super Saiyan for blocking hits from the boys on the Lookout, who both went SSJ against him. Trunks is stronger because of his age, he has one full year of training over Goten, and we've all seen what a Saiyain can accomplish in one year. Oozaru= Base x10 Base. Get Anime Apparel here: http://bit.ly/AnimeCartoonApparel Use code meme for an Extra 5% discount ($49+)! Also what does Goku blasting nukes have to do with it? Why SSJ Vegito was 2 leagues ahead of SSJ3 Gotenks. Azariah Gotenks vs. Buu. You keep thinking that. Goten/Trunks were, as much as I hate to say it, at least on par with Final Form Freeza each, and if not then very close to. Whether they meant Freeza's base (520k) or his final form (120mil) is ultimately never explained, or even if it was meant for when the two combined. Super Saiyan 2= Base x100. Powers and Stats. Due to the ROSAT however, that may bring them close to Cell Saga Super Saiyan Goku's standard, but likely not equal to (and for the record, Super Saiyan Gohan wasn't stronger than Super Saiyan Goku at any point in the manga, as I saw somebody say that he was stronger here). Their fusion never actually fought buu until after ROSAT, where they were also a SSj 3 fusion. Compared to Trunks, Goten was slightly weaker, admitted by Goten himself and noted by Goku when he was teaching them the fusion technique and told Trunks to lower his ki a little to match Goten's. I think the U7 Saiyans are a step above the U6 and personally think Goten and Trunks stomp them but wondering what everyone else thinks. Heck he would have stomped him in base. Once she saw trunks energy blast she stated she had to end the fight quickly likely due to how the stadium would end up at the rate they were going. Actually they were struggling to beat ado and cabo. Tier: High 4-C. Name: Goten Origin: Dragon Ball. fusion could easily be well beyond that, and then we add gotenk's SSj to factor in as well. There was no evidence that anyone besides the people who was on namek during the frieza saga saw him transform so no. 750,000,000,000 1.5x Super Saiyan Super Saiayn 2 Edit. Forms Super Saiyan. There're pretty strong. Fusion power levels...one of the worst things when discussing DBZ lol... And she was laughing at Vegeta's Big Bang attack... like a said it may have been filler but i was wrong it was only 150 times and i forgot goku could do that later in the 100x training. Needless to say, both Goten and Trunks have a lot of training to do before they can hit the same power levels as their dear old dads, fusion or no. Big Sok • 7 December 2019 • User blog:Big Sok. Which may place Goten and Trunks around 1.5-2mil a piece. Hard to say, but before I give my two cents on where i'd agree to rank them I must concur with @reaverlation, feats aren't to be considered in terms of judging the power and ranking of a Dragon Ball character to a certain point. But says they'd be perfect for the kids. Vegeta also states that in the excitement of the fight that Trunks was forgetting his basic training. The fact that 18 according to you "shit her pants" when they threw a ki blast is PIS since weaker versions of herself and her brother were casually nuking cities when they weren't trying. Fusion changes things. They are based on the facts that SSj3 is SSj2 x4 and SSj2 is SSj1 x2. Their powers developed much faster than Goku or Gohans. This is something i been wondering and been speculating about for months ever since i been rewatching the Buu Saga from DBZ. I do not add in amplified blasts as those feats are too inconsistent to mark. We also know that people who can sense Ki can feel the true ability of others, regardless if they are suppressing it, so long as they are near enough to feel their presence. Technically, future Trunks is stronger because for all we know, he still trained after defeating cell and 17 and 18. both Goten and trunks have power level in the tens of millions they stomp terribly. Nappa and Vegeta both had it during the Saiyan saga. Who are they weaker than without fusion? 1 Emperor Pilaf Saga; 2 Tournament Saga; 3 Red Ribbon Saga; 4 General Blue Saga; 5 Commander Red Saga; 6 Fortuneteller Baba Saga; 7 Tenshinhan Saga; 8 Piccolo Daimao Saga. However, because the Fusion Dance requires near-equal, if not identical power levels of each of the fused individuals, Trunks had to lower his power level to match Goten's since his was slightly higher from being one year older. These 2, while one was on top of another, gave Android 16 a fight in base form.When they turned Super Saiyan,18 started worrying about how Mighty Mask power level increased so much.When Trunks fired a simple Ki blast,18 crapped her pants at the blast coming at her.A simple Ki blast and these 2 kids got stronger in the ROSAT. How powerful would you say goten and trunks exactly are? To which Goku responded with not thinking them as much of a challenge and quickly got bored of the idea of fighting them himself. Why does them = Namek Goku mean Goku cant launch nukes? With that power level the SSJ goten and trunks have, you made them rival 100% form frieza in namek. So you are telling me goku cannot launch nukes? Future Trunks. It's more likely that as SSJ they are around Freeza's max level or above apiece. There are other factors that show a … @dratini1331: Yeah in base level.When they turned SSJ and fired a simple Ki blast at her, she was crapping her pants at the power they released.I'd say above 18.If this was true about being around 18 power level, then their fusions shouldn't be as strong as to the point of surpassing SSJ2's and rivaling SSJ3's. This was partly due to the fact that Trunks is one year older and naturally exhibited a little more strength as a result. @reikai: It had to be base level Frieze because Tarble wasn't around when Frieza transformed. Gohan was so much stronger than cell when he owned him. Power Levels of dragon ball z official (up to DBS). She is after the prize money in the first place. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Gallery 4 Others 5 Discussions Trunks (トランクス) is a protagonist in the Dragon Ball manga and the anime series Dragon Ball Z and Dragon Ball GT He is the Human and Saiyan hybrid son of Bulma and Vegeta, and later the older brother of Bulla. Thats basically what i mean as well. Vegeta had a couple of massive power boosts during the Cell saga. so she probably under estimated how powerful ssj are when compared to ssj2 which beat cell. Maybe not even they can break through time and space dimensional portals and time travel so what if they don't even stand a chance against Goku Black? Finally some new official power levels have been confirmed. Nope. It might seem it was a certain PL to achieve it at the surface, but is a Kid Trunks and Goten really the same power level as a highly trained, experienced, and toned Frieza Saga Goku. He has been doing that since the Piccolo junior arc. both Goten and trunks have power level in the tens of millions they stomp terribly. Saiyan saga he was launching a blast equivalent to a planet buster. Besides we do not know how goku would have fared against 18. And as far as them being chumps, you must also realize that at this point in time, Goten and Trunks are 8 and 9yrs old respectively. Super Saiyan 3= Base x400. They're likely close to her level. Anyone honestly thinking Base Goten (if he went back to the Trunks saga) could defeat Future Super Saiyan Trunks, must be out of their mind. when i read it i see more surprise then anything about how powerful they are for their age and remember she hasnt really seen a supersayian fight for 7 years. And what was shown may i ask? Name: Gotenks Origin: Dragon Ball. Kamehameha's power level 924 Piccolo Special Beam Cannon's power level 1,330 Gohan Hidden Potential released 1,307 Gohan 1 Piccolo Special Beam Cannon's power level 1,440 Vegeta Saga (trainings) Master Roshi Base 139 Krillin 206 Turtle 0.001 Tien Shinhan 250 Yamcha 177 Piccolo With Weighted Clothing 329 Mr. Popo 1,030 King Kai 3,500 In the ova with vegeta brother, they were fighting someone around frieza level, and is cannon since the battle of gods mentioned vegeta brother.So I said around future trunks lv or little bit above, before the hyperbolic time chamber training. @dratini1331: Yeah in their base while having that stupid mighty mask costume, they were able to fight 18 quite evenly. after the buu saga, powers are based on Theory and multipliers DRAGON BALL CLÁSSICO Contents. Now we all know that it would be HIGHLY impractical for two kids the age of eight and seven respectively, to have a power level higher than pre-RoSaT Goku, Gohan, Vegeta and Trunks. Assuming he did held back it woudn't matter, most people who are weaker than goku would have had a harder time blocking trunks full swing strikes, goku did it with a finger while trunks was in SSJ(which to be honest that alone proves trunks wasn't holding back) Goku already seemed to be far above everyone else and the only reason why he lost to android 19 is because of his heart disease, if it wasn't for that he would have stomped 19 in a few minutes due to gero only gathering data up to the saiyan saga. Discussion had at work wondering what everyone thinks. Goten/Powers, Stats, and Abilities < Goten. Fusion of Goten and Trunks through Fusion Dance. They created illusionary doppelgangers to confuse the boys. Trunks is equal to Goku when he fought against Frieza on planet Namek, while fighting against Frieza's soldiers Trunks's power level only reads 5 on their scouters. She stomped vegeta so she wouldn't be scared of the kids turning ssj. Goten or Trunks. If you see the uncut anime they do go to a scene on one of Freeza's planets where his men are monitoring the fight via their sensors of the combatants power levels. Based on showcases. @deathhero61: No it isn't. King piccolo is pushing it, they are way above him. If they were far above goku in every category then that would mean during the buu saga when they were going to where buu and the others were they would have caught up in half a second. The power levels for the non-canon GT, which follow Goku saying that Rilldo is "stronger than Buu" . I would say around base form Frieza or just above King Piccolo. And filler? Which may be to say that Goten and Trunks (as individuals) working together could take out Freeza. @ deathhero61: Zarbon knew, but never saw him transform so no Tarble is also mentioned in the saga. Of a challenge and quickly got bored of the form idea of fighting them himself n't scared! Have this one securely in the manga she stomped Vegeta and Trunks have level. 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